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Jared
i'm going balls to the wall building a good gaming pc. all i want to know is if $2000 seems like a steep or shallow budget for a decent pc.
Answer
To be VERY honest with you, I've built several gaming PCs and they're really not worth the expense. Very few games come out now Just for the PC. The next generation Xbox and PS will give great resolution and have more options for game play than any PC you can build. But that's just my opinion.
However, looking at an ultimate computer for game play, most of your money needs to be in your video card. The new PCI 3.0 cards are out but they are only for some Intel boards. Next is the monitor. There is no reason to have a great card hooked up to a monitor with a 5 to 7ms response time.
Processors, I like AMD because you can get more bang for you buck. The best though is the i7. There is no reason to go beyond a quad core.
8 to 16 gigs of ram is more than enough.
Quality counts in your power supply.
As for the case, spend more on good airflow and not lights.
Spend a little extra for a water cooler too. That way you can overclock the processor.
$2000 is more than enough to make a very decent computer. Just do your research and remember to read the reviews of what your buying. Also. I highly suggest buying from Newegg.
To be VERY honest with you, I've built several gaming PCs and they're really not worth the expense. Very few games come out now Just for the PC. The next generation Xbox and PS will give great resolution and have more options for game play than any PC you can build. But that's just my opinion.
However, looking at an ultimate computer for game play, most of your money needs to be in your video card. The new PCI 3.0 cards are out but they are only for some Intel boards. Next is the monitor. There is no reason to have a great card hooked up to a monitor with a 5 to 7ms response time.
Processors, I like AMD because you can get more bang for you buck. The best though is the i7. There is no reason to go beyond a quad core.
8 to 16 gigs of ram is more than enough.
Quality counts in your power supply.
As for the case, spend more on good airflow and not lights.
Spend a little extra for a water cooler too. That way you can overclock the processor.
$2000 is more than enough to make a very decent computer. Just do your research and remember to read the reviews of what your buying. Also. I highly suggest buying from Newegg.
Are the stated PC components supported by each other?
Anirban Ma
I'm kinda new to the 'build your PC from scratch' market, so I was wondering if all the following components are supported by each other and if I will have enough slots to plug in everything together. If not, will you be kind enough to suggest me an alternative from the same website I'm gonna be posting a link to? Oh, and it will be extremely nice if you could tell me if I missed out any component. (I know I need a CPU case, but that comes later.)
Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K ( http://www.flipkart.com/intel-3-4-ghz-lga1155-core-i5-3570k-processor/p/itmd99wtgqur9dhm?pid=PSRD99WSTTH4Y88G&ref=dbd099df-5d82-4ab1-ad65-307d66f9327f&srno=t_1&otracker=from-search&query=intel%20i5%203570k )
RAM: Corsair DDR3 Vengeance 8 GB ( http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-vengeance-ddr3-8-gb-1-x-gb-pc-ram-cmz8gx3m1a1600c10/p/itmd8cfmbufg3dnq?pid=RAMD8CFMX53FYAXY&icmpid=reco_pp_cross_ram_3 )
Graphics Card: nVidia GTX 660 Ti ( http://www.flipkart.com/asus-nvidia-gtx660-ti-dc2-2gd5-2-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmdewxtbpd4dh8v?pid=GRCDEWWAFZRNGXZM&ref=2d77d253-a506-422c-b2a6-75af0221955d&srno=t_4&otracker=from-search&query=nvidia%20660%20ti )
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1 TB Desktop Hard Drive ( http://www.flipkart.com/seagate-barracuda-1-tb-desktop-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003/p/itmd6uyz2g5sdhgh?pid=IHDD6UYN8VR4HRMA&ref=e261555c-6196-4b4f-afdc-eb0dc04c5622 )
Motherboard: Asus P8B75-M LX ( http://www.flipkart.com/asus-p8b75-m-lx-motherboard/p/itmdezctxskthyvh?pid=MBDDEZ2WZH5H66ZZ&ref=3a948ce3-d605-47ae-92e1-8f38d07d72ff&srno=t_2&otracker=from-search&query=motherboard )
PSU: Corsair VS450 450 Watt PSU ( http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-vs450-450-watt-psu/p/itmdbfa3kaffmum3?pid=PSUDBF9ZBHSJVGJ8&ref=f32d9315-44e5-41a2-9d22-66798b754705&srno=t_1&otracker=from-search&query=PSU )
CPU fan: Deepcool Wind Blade 80 Cooler ( http://www.flipkart.com/deepcool-wind-blade-80-cooler/p/itmdgshugpucmdag?pid=COLDGSHBEC8AHX3Y&ref=fa30c994-9127-4626-b0ff-4c1ed9122547&srno=t_1&otracker=from-search&query=CPU%20fan )
Monitor: Samsung S20B300B 20" LED Backlit LCD Monitor ( http://www.flipkart.com/samsung-s20b300b-20-inch-led-backlit-lcd-monitor/p/itmd8mcfhab6jfxn?pid=MOND8V4YHGZZZZBH&ref=3787998e-7dc7-4ea6-967c-6b5665f66935&srno=t_12&otracker=from-search&query=monitors )
Keyboard: Razer Deathstalker ( http://www.flipkart.com/razer-deathstalker-keyboard/p/itmdhhzgdseeq9jt?pid=ACCDHHZHR8HBZWTH&ref=f4ed0473-9b3b-4614-83ec-8103ee000beb&srno=t_2&otracker=from-search&query=razer%20deathstalker%20keyboard )
Mouse: Razer Taipan ( http://www.flipkart.com/razer-taipan-expert-ambidextrous-laser-mouse/p/itmdc74pcteszf4t?pid=ACCDC74HEZRT3REE&ref=ed720395-86c8-4ab6-b3cd-a5ff4ad69e6c&srno=t_1&otracker=from-search&query=razer%20taipan )
Help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Answer
2x4GB RAM performs better than 1x8GB RAM because it is dual channel, and you are downgrading it to single channel.
http://www.theitdepot.com/
has a better selection of in stock and orderable computer cases, and sometimes beats flipkart on delivered price.
You show an unlocked clock K version of CPU, but show a B75 motherboard that does not support CPU overclock. The fan you show is a case fan; not a cpu cooler. To overclock, you would need a better CPU cooler than the Intel stock one. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is a good value but out of stock again at itdepot:
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Cooler+Master+Hyper+212+Evo+CPU+Coolers_C10P13532.html
I suggest a cheaper i5-3470
http://www.flipkart.com/intel-core-i5-3470/p/itmdd2xsg3gvjzrz?pid=PSRDD2HHC9GF4GEF&ref=f31a3665-b6e7-477c-bf97-da487c3d3e8c
Rs. 11872 vs 14931 (saves 3059 Rs 20%. Performance drop of 6% will not be noticed in gaming as most games do not require high intensity CPU. Might lose one frame per second in Far Cry 3 ultra level). Otherwise, raise the motherboard to a Z77 or Z75 and add the Hyper 212 EVO.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
You may want to use a better CPU cooler anyway.
Look for ratings of them:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/awards
Motherboard is OK, but is a budget level compared to CPU and graphics. The board has only 1 x SATA 6Gb/s port(s), gray and that is taken by the HDD. Most H77 boards have 2 x SATA 6Gb/s allowing the important addition of a solid state drive.
Solid state drives can be used for any or all of the following:
1) On Z77 boards, can activate Intel RST/SRT HDD acceleration by a 30GB partition to the SSD that will raise HDD performance to Velociraptor level.
2) Putting Windows on a Solid State drive makes faster boot and shut down, and all active windows processes run faster.
3) Putting Internet Cache folder on SSD makes the internet run faster; especially with Google Chrome that makes a very active use of the Internet in caching data for fast load.
4) Putting interactive games on an SSD makes them respond and load faster.
5) Using a portion as a temporary work in process for video edit or even photo edit improves its speed, and then archive when completed to the spinning HDD.
A modern setup with 3rd gen i5 and GTX 660 ti will usually include an SSD of a size you can afford and you choose how to use it best.
Subtract the extra cabinet fan until you know your computer case. You don't know if you need an 80mm, 120mm, or 200mm or none at all. The case should be a bottom mount power supply and at least 2 fans (intake and exhaust), and wide enough to hold a cpu cooler and deep enough for long graphics cards. It should have front panel USB 3.0 because your motherboard offers it, and also 2.0 connects (having both is better even though 2.0 cables plug into 3.0 ports).
Your monitor choice is a disappointment. It is not 1080p, has a low contrast ratio, is only 5ms GTG response, is only 20 inches. Flipkart selection is terrible. Buy one somewhere else.
I see it is hard to find good displays in India.
http://www.naaptol.com/monitors/dell-s2240m-21-5-inch-led-monitor/P/11631893.html
This is a Dell 21.5 inch IPS but is even worse 7ms GTG. The rest of the parameters are good. Search hard for a 1080p assuring digital input, LED backlit and 5 or less ms response. IPS is excellent about viewing angles and in distance from the screen focusing.
This one looks worth the money:
http://www.naaptol.com/monitors/benq-rl2240h-21-5--gaming-led-monitor/P/12215403.html
Your power supply choice does not appear to be a version suitable for a GTX 660 ti. There are three different versions of VS450 sold. The one described at Flipkart is the single rail one +12V which is good, but only one pcie x 16 auxiliary 6 pin, and the GTX 660 ti needs two. You will need to either upgrade your power supply or downgrade your graphics to GTX 660 or HD 7850.
The sellers of power supplies outside the USA have a wide variety of bad power supplies. Corsair is very good, but you do need 2 6-pin and 450W is minimal.
http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-vs550-550-watt-psu/p/itmdg36xx8yzgjrs?pid=PSUDG34775NHYDHK
VS550 appears to be the lowest priced at Flipkart that meets the requirement.
If you are short on money, the CPU downgrade and change to HD 7870
http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-amd-ati-gv-r7870oc-2gd-2-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmd9hhsesgnyyh4?pid=GRCD9HHSAVKUZXGF&ref=b4664656-9f21-42a3-a637-e73f699cbdde
Unfortunately, you have squeezed the motherboard, power supply, and display-monitor too tight for good gaming, and already a shame about no SSD at all, but then you need the 2 sata III 6Gb/s.
AN overclocked 2GB GDDR5 HD 7870 should be good enough
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/647?vs=548
2x4GB RAM performs better than 1x8GB RAM because it is dual channel, and you are downgrading it to single channel.
http://www.theitdepot.com/
has a better selection of in stock and orderable computer cases, and sometimes beats flipkart on delivered price.
You show an unlocked clock K version of CPU, but show a B75 motherboard that does not support CPU overclock. The fan you show is a case fan; not a cpu cooler. To overclock, you would need a better CPU cooler than the Intel stock one. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is a good value but out of stock again at itdepot:
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Cooler+Master+Hyper+212+Evo+CPU+Coolers_C10P13532.html
I suggest a cheaper i5-3470
http://www.flipkart.com/intel-core-i5-3470/p/itmdd2xsg3gvjzrz?pid=PSRDD2HHC9GF4GEF&ref=f31a3665-b6e7-477c-bf97-da487c3d3e8c
Rs. 11872 vs 14931 (saves 3059 Rs 20%. Performance drop of 6% will not be noticed in gaming as most games do not require high intensity CPU. Might lose one frame per second in Far Cry 3 ultra level). Otherwise, raise the motherboard to a Z77 or Z75 and add the Hyper 212 EVO.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
You may want to use a better CPU cooler anyway.
Look for ratings of them:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/awards
Motherboard is OK, but is a budget level compared to CPU and graphics. The board has only 1 x SATA 6Gb/s port(s), gray and that is taken by the HDD. Most H77 boards have 2 x SATA 6Gb/s allowing the important addition of a solid state drive.
Solid state drives can be used for any or all of the following:
1) On Z77 boards, can activate Intel RST/SRT HDD acceleration by a 30GB partition to the SSD that will raise HDD performance to Velociraptor level.
2) Putting Windows on a Solid State drive makes faster boot and shut down, and all active windows processes run faster.
3) Putting Internet Cache folder on SSD makes the internet run faster; especially with Google Chrome that makes a very active use of the Internet in caching data for fast load.
4) Putting interactive games on an SSD makes them respond and load faster.
5) Using a portion as a temporary work in process for video edit or even photo edit improves its speed, and then archive when completed to the spinning HDD.
A modern setup with 3rd gen i5 and GTX 660 ti will usually include an SSD of a size you can afford and you choose how to use it best.
Subtract the extra cabinet fan until you know your computer case. You don't know if you need an 80mm, 120mm, or 200mm or none at all. The case should be a bottom mount power supply and at least 2 fans (intake and exhaust), and wide enough to hold a cpu cooler and deep enough for long graphics cards. It should have front panel USB 3.0 because your motherboard offers it, and also 2.0 connects (having both is better even though 2.0 cables plug into 3.0 ports).
Your monitor choice is a disappointment. It is not 1080p, has a low contrast ratio, is only 5ms GTG response, is only 20 inches. Flipkart selection is terrible. Buy one somewhere else.
I see it is hard to find good displays in India.
http://www.naaptol.com/monitors/dell-s2240m-21-5-inch-led-monitor/P/11631893.html
This is a Dell 21.5 inch IPS but is even worse 7ms GTG. The rest of the parameters are good. Search hard for a 1080p assuring digital input, LED backlit and 5 or less ms response. IPS is excellent about viewing angles and in distance from the screen focusing.
This one looks worth the money:
http://www.naaptol.com/monitors/benq-rl2240h-21-5--gaming-led-monitor/P/12215403.html
Your power supply choice does not appear to be a version suitable for a GTX 660 ti. There are three different versions of VS450 sold. The one described at Flipkart is the single rail one +12V which is good, but only one pcie x 16 auxiliary 6 pin, and the GTX 660 ti needs two. You will need to either upgrade your power supply or downgrade your graphics to GTX 660 or HD 7850.
The sellers of power supplies outside the USA have a wide variety of bad power supplies. Corsair is very good, but you do need 2 6-pin and 450W is minimal.
http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-vs550-550-watt-psu/p/itmdg36xx8yzgjrs?pid=PSUDG34775NHYDHK
VS550 appears to be the lowest priced at Flipkart that meets the requirement.
If you are short on money, the CPU downgrade and change to HD 7870
http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-amd-ati-gv-r7870oc-2gd-2-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmd9hhsesgnyyh4?pid=GRCD9HHSAVKUZXGF&ref=b4664656-9f21-42a3-a637-e73f699cbdde
Unfortunately, you have squeezed the motherboard, power supply, and display-monitor too tight for good gaming, and already a shame about no SSD at all, but then you need the 2 sata III 6Gb/s.
AN overclocked 2GB GDDR5 HD 7870 should be good enough
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/647?vs=548
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