best gaming computer 2013 under 2000 image
Bryce
For a little more detail, a friend of mine wants me to build her a gaming computer. She said she wants the ABSOLUTE best, and that she's willing to pay up to $6000. (yes, I told her that she can get a very good one for less than half of that, and anything over $2000 max is excessive and not worth the performance increase per dollar, but she insists.) Anyway, so this is what I've come up with to be an absolute powerhouse of a PC.
Case and out of case stuff:
Cooler Master HAF XB Gaming Case
LG 12X Internal Blu-ray Drive
Razer Blackwidow 2013 Expert Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
Razer Naga Hex 5600 DPI Laser Gaming Mouse
Lamptron FC10 5.25" Steampunk Design Fan Controller (gotta love those nixie tubes)
INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (for all those SD card needs)
Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920
Inner doodads and workings:
Intel® Core⢠i5-3570K (overclocked to 4 Ghz)
Xtreme Hydro II Liquid Cooling for CPU, and GPU with dual fans
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UP4 TH Intel Z77 Motherboard
16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/2133MHz RAM (Ripjaws x)
GPU1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN 6GB
GPU2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN 6GB
Corsair AX1200i Digital 80 Plus Platinum Certified Modular Power Supply (1,200 watts) (I figure shes spending so much on this thing, I could get a really good power supply and maybe at least help her save on her power bill)
2 64 gig SSDs in RAID 0
3TB 7200RPM HDD
Dual Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling Systems (it'll need all the cooling it can get)
Annnd of course, it'll be running windows 7 Ultimate.
So yeah, honestly, I think its a tad overkill, but it should be able to run pretty much... well... anything. Probably anything in the next 10 years actually. This is about as future proof as you can currently get. So, give me any and all opinions on the build. In my personal opinion, its a monster of a computer.
The final price will be almost exactly $5000. Give or take 30 bucks.
I'd also like to bring up, I never said I know much about computers. I built my own for about 900 a year ago, and thats the extent of my knowledge. For some god awful reason, she still wants me to build it, and only me. I've tried to convince her otherwise, and I've told her shes probably going to lose money coming to me, but she still insists, and hell, I'm getting paid. So yeah. I know alot about lower end gaming, I know how to overclock an i5 and I know about some lower end products, but high end stuff is new to me. So yeah, thats why i'm on answers asking this. I've tried to convince her to go to someone else, but she refuses.
Answer
First of all, I think this post is BS because if you have the knowledge and experience to build a rig like this, you wouldn't be posting on yahoo answers for opinions ( you would already know it is good). Which brings up the question, if you don't know how good this rig is, then you have no business trying to build it because there are issues here that are obvious to people who actually do have experience. Soooo if this post is legit, here are some observations from a 30+ year gaming/computer geek. This is assuming that money is NOT an issue.
1) An i5 really?? (you should know to use an i7 and now a Haswell i7)
2) You will have to either switch the brand of RAM or the hydro cooler because the heat spreaders on the top of the RAM in the first slot will hit the cooler.
3) You will have to either dump one of the titans or upgrade the power supply to something bigger such as the Rosewill Hercules 1600 watt because that 1200 you have listed is only capable of about 1000 watts continuous and considering that each of those titans under load ( gaming with real world temps) will be drawing about 375 watts each, that uses 750 of your 1000 watts. now add in 125 for the CPU then add in the CPU cooler, SSD's, fan controller, media card reader, BR burner, HDD cooler and RAM. You will be over loaded. (which also leads me to believe either this is BS or you don't know what your doing).
4) Why are you using (2) 64 GB SSD's in RAID??? seeing that money isn't an issue, why not just get an OCZ Vertex or Samsung 840 series 1TB single SSD??? (another reason I call BS or incompetence)
5) With the motherboard you have listed, you wont be able to use the 2133 Mhz RAM you have listed, it does not support it. ( another BS / incompetence call)
6) Why would you waste time with a 3TB HDD ???? when you could be using the 1TB mentioned above???
OK, well that's enough to convince me you either don't know what your doing or this is just a BS post, thank you.
First of all, I think this post is BS because if you have the knowledge and experience to build a rig like this, you wouldn't be posting on yahoo answers for opinions ( you would already know it is good). Which brings up the question, if you don't know how good this rig is, then you have no business trying to build it because there are issues here that are obvious to people who actually do have experience. Soooo if this post is legit, here are some observations from a 30+ year gaming/computer geek. This is assuming that money is NOT an issue.
1) An i5 really?? (you should know to use an i7 and now a Haswell i7)
2) You will have to either switch the brand of RAM or the hydro cooler because the heat spreaders on the top of the RAM in the first slot will hit the cooler.
3) You will have to either dump one of the titans or upgrade the power supply to something bigger such as the Rosewill Hercules 1600 watt because that 1200 you have listed is only capable of about 1000 watts continuous and considering that each of those titans under load ( gaming with real world temps) will be drawing about 375 watts each, that uses 750 of your 1000 watts. now add in 125 for the CPU then add in the CPU cooler, SSD's, fan controller, media card reader, BR burner, HDD cooler and RAM. You will be over loaded. (which also leads me to believe either this is BS or you don't know what your doing).
4) Why are you using (2) 64 GB SSD's in RAID??? seeing that money isn't an issue, why not just get an OCZ Vertex or Samsung 840 series 1TB single SSD??? (another reason I call BS or incompetence)
5) With the motherboard you have listed, you wont be able to use the 2133 Mhz RAM you have listed, it does not support it. ( another BS / incompetence call)
6) Why would you waste time with a 3TB HDD ???? when you could be using the 1TB mentioned above???
OK, well that's enough to convince me you either don't know what your doing or this is just a BS post, thank you.
laptops that meet these qualifications...?
blue drago
my budget is around 1000 dollars (I have more, but I won't spend that much on a
laptop).
I want my laptop to have the following qualifications:
1. Long battery life (at least 8 hours)
2. good graphics card (the one that can play any game)
And my friend told me to avoid dell and hp and
recommended me acer, asus, lenovo, and samsung.
please tell me if you agree with him.
Answer
The general brand quality is:
Lower quality:
All under $350. Acer and especially its Gateway division, Dell Inspiron, Lenovo Essentials, HP Pavilion, Compaq division of HP, Toshiba Satellite, the lower priced Sony models. They tend to be low price to their performance specifications and features, but quality and reliability suffers.
Higher quality:
Asus (except their cheap ones), Dell XPS, Lenovo Thinkpad and Ideapad, HP Envy, the business lines of Toshiba, the higher priced Sony, Samsung
The basis of this, besides my experience and the brand's own statements of differences between the product lines is:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2020725/apple-macbooks-lead-in-laptop-features-and-reliability.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/244419/laptop_reliability_and_satisfaction_macbooks_rule.html
http://www.rescuecom.com/news-press-releases/Computer-Reliability-Report-2013.aspx
2009 detailed study:
http://www.squaretrade.com/laptop-reliability-1109/
And, you need to combine all of the information together, to come to my conclusion.
Now, here is your problem.
"long battery life at least 8 hours"
The stated battery life is "up to" hours. That is
All wireless off. Screen dimmed to minimum. Minimal applications running as in no antivirus, DVD, or parallel processing - generally it is a text operation. New battery fully charged. In a series of laptops showing the same "up to" it is the model with the lowest performance of CPU and graphics.
Lenovo Thinkpad T and X series mostly have an ultrabay and battery options that can get an all day operation on the integrated graphics, they are business models for durability and do not feature powerful graphics cards. MacBook Pro 15 has a great battery and very nice graphics card, it runs OSX, and to add Windows, and then buy the model, think closer to $2000 than $1000.
Maybe buying an extra battery or even two and can keep a 2nd charged battery with you to get the 8 hours you seek, because 3 to 4 hours is common on a 6 cell battery with laptop performance strong enough for gaming. You might get close with the small brick called Dell Alienware 14. It is very heavy and thick, has a good battery and has a good graphics card when plugged in.
In the USA, your best deal is to set aside the battery life, carrying an extra battery, and go a Lenovo Y510p on sale at Lenovo.com (and use a student portal for a small savings - google barnes and noble lenovo gold, and lenovo student portal to find the links). The model will be a little under $1000, and you get a 1080p display, a Haswell core i7, and a GT 750M graphics card, with 8GB ram and a big HDD. Even on its HD 4000 graphics and set to conserve battery it gets only about 3 to 4 hours, but it very much satisfies excellent gaming.
You see, when they use a low voltage power saving CPU, they often look for a thin and light and a laptop like this Toshiba:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834216538
only has a 4 cell low amperage battery, and I do not believe it is removeable either to carry a spare.
An option that gets close is an MSI GE40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152409
$1100 after rebate, it has a good 6 cell removeable battery and a Haswell i7 4702MQ which is designed to run a little lower in power than a 4700MQ, and has a very strong GTX 760M graphics card. This laptop as new battery on battery conserve can get almost 7 hours. It tends to get hot when gaming because of its low profile and a laptop cooling pad is advised. It has a good 1600x900 resolution screen. It does go over budget, but is as close as I expect you can get. There may be a Dell Inspiron with a decent graphics card, low voltage underclocked CPU and a moderate graphics card and 6 cell battery, but you are giving up a lot in performance and quality to get there. Since I don't feel right recommending the Dell, you can look up its details yourself.
This is a gaming to graphics card:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
and CPU performance ranking in laptops:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html
At Lenovo.com, you can customize a T430 Thinkpad with 1600 x 900 LCD and 9 cell battery and NVIDIA NVS 5400M Graphics, but that is only rank 191 in gaming.
The general brand quality is:
Lower quality:
All under $350. Acer and especially its Gateway division, Dell Inspiron, Lenovo Essentials, HP Pavilion, Compaq division of HP, Toshiba Satellite, the lower priced Sony models. They tend to be low price to their performance specifications and features, but quality and reliability suffers.
Higher quality:
Asus (except their cheap ones), Dell XPS, Lenovo Thinkpad and Ideapad, HP Envy, the business lines of Toshiba, the higher priced Sony, Samsung
The basis of this, besides my experience and the brand's own statements of differences between the product lines is:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2020725/apple-macbooks-lead-in-laptop-features-and-reliability.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/244419/laptop_reliability_and_satisfaction_macbooks_rule.html
http://www.rescuecom.com/news-press-releases/Computer-Reliability-Report-2013.aspx
2009 detailed study:
http://www.squaretrade.com/laptop-reliability-1109/
And, you need to combine all of the information together, to come to my conclusion.
Now, here is your problem.
"long battery life at least 8 hours"
The stated battery life is "up to" hours. That is
All wireless off. Screen dimmed to minimum. Minimal applications running as in no antivirus, DVD, or parallel processing - generally it is a text operation. New battery fully charged. In a series of laptops showing the same "up to" it is the model with the lowest performance of CPU and graphics.
Lenovo Thinkpad T and X series mostly have an ultrabay and battery options that can get an all day operation on the integrated graphics, they are business models for durability and do not feature powerful graphics cards. MacBook Pro 15 has a great battery and very nice graphics card, it runs OSX, and to add Windows, and then buy the model, think closer to $2000 than $1000.
Maybe buying an extra battery or even two and can keep a 2nd charged battery with you to get the 8 hours you seek, because 3 to 4 hours is common on a 6 cell battery with laptop performance strong enough for gaming. You might get close with the small brick called Dell Alienware 14. It is very heavy and thick, has a good battery and has a good graphics card when plugged in.
In the USA, your best deal is to set aside the battery life, carrying an extra battery, and go a Lenovo Y510p on sale at Lenovo.com (and use a student portal for a small savings - google barnes and noble lenovo gold, and lenovo student portal to find the links). The model will be a little under $1000, and you get a 1080p display, a Haswell core i7, and a GT 750M graphics card, with 8GB ram and a big HDD. Even on its HD 4000 graphics and set to conserve battery it gets only about 3 to 4 hours, but it very much satisfies excellent gaming.
You see, when they use a low voltage power saving CPU, they often look for a thin and light and a laptop like this Toshiba:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834216538
only has a 4 cell low amperage battery, and I do not believe it is removeable either to carry a spare.
An option that gets close is an MSI GE40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152409
$1100 after rebate, it has a good 6 cell removeable battery and a Haswell i7 4702MQ which is designed to run a little lower in power than a 4700MQ, and has a very strong GTX 760M graphics card. This laptop as new battery on battery conserve can get almost 7 hours. It tends to get hot when gaming because of its low profile and a laptop cooling pad is advised. It has a good 1600x900 resolution screen. It does go over budget, but is as close as I expect you can get. There may be a Dell Inspiron with a decent graphics card, low voltage underclocked CPU and a moderate graphics card and 6 cell battery, but you are giving up a lot in performance and quality to get there. Since I don't feel right recommending the Dell, you can look up its details yourself.
This is a gaming to graphics card:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
and CPU performance ranking in laptops:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html
At Lenovo.com, you can customize a T430 Thinkpad with 1600 x 900 LCD and 9 cell battery and NVIDIA NVS 5400M Graphics, but that is only rank 191 in gaming.
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