Jessica j
Upgrading my Motherboard, CPU, Ram, Video Card, and adding a SSD for the operating system.
The following is the upgraded system when complete.
OS: Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU: AMD 9320
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth 990fx R2.0
Ram: 16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro DDR3 1866
Video: XFX HD 7970 3GB 384-bit
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 128GB
HDD: Seagate 500GB
Power: Antec 750W
Should this be a good enough for a system that will run games (with or without FRAPS running) and multitasking with MS Office products. One full 1080p monitor at this time but will upgrade later using 2 full 1080p monitors. What are some opinions about this setup.
Answer
Can't argue with that build.
In most titles the new GeForce GTX 770 beats both the Radeon HD 7970 and GTX 680, so that's something to consider. Of course for dual monitors the 3GB of VRAM on the HD 7970 is advantageous. But if you plan to run games on dual 1080p monitors (as opposed to gaming on one monitor and using the other for work/browsing) then a 4GB card would be ideal.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6994/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-review/10
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_770/16.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/05/31/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-2gb-review/5
Can't argue with that build.
In most titles the new GeForce GTX 770 beats both the Radeon HD 7970 and GTX 680, so that's something to consider. Of course for dual monitors the 3GB of VRAM on the HD 7970 is advantageous. But if you plan to run games on dual 1080p monitors (as opposed to gaming on one monitor and using the other for work/browsing) then a 4GB card would be ideal.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6994/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-review/10
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_770/16.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/05/31/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-2gb-review/5
Is this a good gaming laptop?
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Processor: AMD A10-4600M quad-core accelerated processor (2.3GHz/3.4GHz w/ TurboCORE)
Memory: 6GB DDR3 memory
Storage: 750GB hard drive
Graphics: AMD Radeon⢠HD 7660G + 7670M Dual Graphics w/ 2GB dedicated memory, AMD A70M Fusion⢠chipset
I was looking for a laptop which was able to play moderate games, now will these specs be able to run battlefield 4 and COD ghost? If so, could you please give me an estimation of what sort of performance I can get. All games will be played at 768p
Answer
Dual graphics works better on paper than in reality.
An HD 7660G alone scores G3D 803 and 7670M 838, but the gaming and test results score all over the place. This site says the reported combination is less than the individual GPUs at 750
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php
That is reported scores in a test.
This site:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
ranks the dual at 162 and lower 166 7670M and 185 on the 7660G where lower is better.
Reports on high settings, like Dead Space 3 (2013) 37.8 fps on dual, 37.3 on the 7670M, 32.9 on the 7660G.
There is no question that the new games would be playable, but the question is whether the laptop performs better than an i5-3210M and HD 7670M or GT 630M.
Even in slight averaging downward, I would go with the Intel setup.
The A10 scores 3157, and that is only in line with core i3
Core i3-3120M @ 2.50GHz3285, Core i3-3110M @ 2.40GHz3044
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
The dedicated ram is DDR3. Graphics chips can use system ram as DDR3. The 6+2 total 8GB is enough, but dedicated only counts as an improvement as GDDR5 ram. Otherwise, just add the numbers. As a matter of fact, 4+2 is imbalanced and loses 5% for lack of RAID that requires balanced pairs.
Dual graphics seems to do better when able to stress it. 1080p displays and highest settings work best. Drop it to the x768 and it does not show as well.
The process of dual graphics involves sending alternate frames to each GPU and then displaying them alternating. The greater the imbalance, the worse is something called microstuttering. That causes you to drop the settings down or shut off Dual graphics.
Battlefield-4 shows approaching medium settings 25fps guidance
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=3060&game=Battlefield+4&p_make=AMD&p_deriv=APU+A10-4600M+Quad+Core&gc_make=ATI&gc_deriv=Radeon+HD+7660G+%2B+HD+7670M+Dual&ram=6&checkSubmit=#systemRequirements
COD Ghosts a little lower
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=7619&game=Call+of+Duty%3A+Ghosts&p_make=AMD&p_deriv=APU+A10-4600M+Quad+Core&gc_make=ATI&gc_deriv=Radeon+HD+7660G+%2B+HD+7670M+Dual&ram=6&checkSubmit=#systemRequirements
My thinking is that this is disappointing, but is a $500 Acer and you can't do much better at the price. (Acer.com had it for $500 for a long time and may still be)
The problem is you bump up the price and don't get enough.
$600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314181
$640
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834216538
Would you take a scratch and dent refurb to have the real power:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231044
ASUS G46VW-BHI5N43 Notebook, B Grade Scratch and Dent Intel Core i5 3210M(2.50GHz) 14" 8GB Memory 750GB HDD 5400rpm NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M
$590 after rebate.
That gets the medium-high settings
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=7619&game=Call+of+Duty%3A+Ghosts&p_make=Intel&p_deriv=Core+i5-3210M+2.5GHz&gc_make=Nvidia&gc_deriv=GeForce+GTX+660M&ram=8&checkSubmit=#systemRequirements
If you are stuck at $500, get what you can get. If the pool has more money and you want to really get good performance, takes a bigger bite.
Dual graphics works better on paper than in reality.
An HD 7660G alone scores G3D 803 and 7670M 838, but the gaming and test results score all over the place. This site says the reported combination is less than the individual GPUs at 750
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php
That is reported scores in a test.
This site:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
ranks the dual at 162 and lower 166 7670M and 185 on the 7660G where lower is better.
Reports on high settings, like Dead Space 3 (2013) 37.8 fps on dual, 37.3 on the 7670M, 32.9 on the 7660G.
There is no question that the new games would be playable, but the question is whether the laptop performs better than an i5-3210M and HD 7670M or GT 630M.
Even in slight averaging downward, I would go with the Intel setup.
The A10 scores 3157, and that is only in line with core i3
Core i3-3120M @ 2.50GHz3285, Core i3-3110M @ 2.40GHz3044
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
The dedicated ram is DDR3. Graphics chips can use system ram as DDR3. The 6+2 total 8GB is enough, but dedicated only counts as an improvement as GDDR5 ram. Otherwise, just add the numbers. As a matter of fact, 4+2 is imbalanced and loses 5% for lack of RAID that requires balanced pairs.
Dual graphics seems to do better when able to stress it. 1080p displays and highest settings work best. Drop it to the x768 and it does not show as well.
The process of dual graphics involves sending alternate frames to each GPU and then displaying them alternating. The greater the imbalance, the worse is something called microstuttering. That causes you to drop the settings down or shut off Dual graphics.
Battlefield-4 shows approaching medium settings 25fps guidance
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=3060&game=Battlefield+4&p_make=AMD&p_deriv=APU+A10-4600M+Quad+Core&gc_make=ATI&gc_deriv=Radeon+HD+7660G+%2B+HD+7670M+Dual&ram=6&checkSubmit=#systemRequirements
COD Ghosts a little lower
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=7619&game=Call+of+Duty%3A+Ghosts&p_make=AMD&p_deriv=APU+A10-4600M+Quad+Core&gc_make=ATI&gc_deriv=Radeon+HD+7660G+%2B+HD+7670M+Dual&ram=6&checkSubmit=#systemRequirements
My thinking is that this is disappointing, but is a $500 Acer and you can't do much better at the price. (Acer.com had it for $500 for a long time and may still be)
The problem is you bump up the price and don't get enough.
$600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314181
$640
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834216538
Would you take a scratch and dent refurb to have the real power:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231044
ASUS G46VW-BHI5N43 Notebook, B Grade Scratch and Dent Intel Core i5 3210M(2.50GHz) 14" 8GB Memory 750GB HDD 5400rpm NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M
$590 after rebate.
That gets the medium-high settings
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=7619&game=Call+of+Duty%3A+Ghosts&p_make=Intel&p_deriv=Core+i5-3210M+2.5GHz&gc_make=Nvidia&gc_deriv=GeForce+GTX+660M&ram=8&checkSubmit=#systemRequirements
If you are stuck at $500, get what you can get. If the pool has more money and you want to really get good performance, takes a bigger bite.
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