Wednesday, October 9, 2013

What way is better for an overclocked computer, building it yourself, or buying a custom system?

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I am in the beginning stages of saving money for a new computer (the existing one is 3 years old). I want a really monstrous powerhouse of a system, and don't know what way to go. I am hoping for a Intel I7 processor overclocked to around 4.5 gig or more, enough memory for the entire library of congress to fit in, and 3D monitor support.

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The only thing I could say about a prebuilt system that sports an i7 overclocked to 5ghz is you know the processor would be from a good batch. As long as the vendor is using air-cooling, or one of these Corsair, Cool-It, or Antec closed water coolers.

I read a chart that said only 10% of the Core i7-2600k processors can hit 4.8ghz on air. About half of the processors will reach4.4ghz- 4.5ghz or so, the other half will go higher. Only the top 2% will reach the magical 5ghz.

personally, I'd do it myself. I have built my own system and I overclock. I wouldn't go with a PC from any vendor. I'm convinced that the motherboard makes a difference in overclocking, just as much as having a good processor. I moved a Core i7-920 from an Asus board to an EVGA board and the chip runs far more stable, ran cooler, needed less voltage on the EVGA board.

I have the 2600K with the Asus WS Revolution, and a Corsair H70, 2 aftermarket 120mm fans and IC Diamond 24 paste. I've hit 4.9 at 1.41v with max temps at 75c. Hit 4.8ghz on the first shot with 1.34v, max temps at 71c. I've hit 5ghz stable with H/T turned off, 1.405v and max temps at 70c. I plan to ask a question about overclocking this chip.

The last time I tried 5ghz, H/T on i ran it with 1.425v and max temps of 78c... it failed Prime 95 after 15 minutes.

Also, my Asus board has an automatic overclocking feature that takes the chip's maximum up to 4.4ghz. I run that feature most of the time.

A good i5-2500k would probably be easier to OC since it doesn't have Hyper-threading. Also in gaming there is no difference between the 2 chips. In a handful of games the i7's Hyper-threading will slightly hinder the games performance. The Hyper-threading only helps in these gaming benchmarking programs.

By the time you pay for a Vendors system, you could have had a system of your own with an expensive motherboard like the Asus Maximus 4 motherboard, water cooling system, and a high-end video card like a GTX 580. When you build it yourself you get way more control of what you're actually using in your system.

I wouldn't skimp on the power supply either. I would probably get a Corsair with an 80plus Gold or Silver certification.


How long will it take you to save the money? AMD has it's FX chips coming out in a month or two and AMD has it's new HD7000 series cards sometime in the fall.

What do you mean by memory? Are you talking about RAM or Hard Drive Space? These vendors sell Hard drive space as something that's valuable. Keep it over what you need. Ram is important. I would get 8gb since RAM is so cheap. I would look for a higher RAM speed like DDR3-1866 or 1600.

What components will I need to build a gaming computer?




TokyoKei


Can someone tell me every single component I will need in order to build a gaming computer because I have no idea what i'm doing and I have never build anything in my life especially a computer so please details matter I would really appreciate it.


Answer
Hmm, i just copy paste a $1250 high end pc i builded many days ago. It should be enough to explain what needed.

CPU:
AMD FX-8320 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8320FRHKBOX
$179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asâ¦
comment: yeah yeah, intel is better but too costly. This 8 core should suffice for at least 3 years. You better save the money for SSD later. make sure you get 4GHz because you want it to work as fast as it could, right? Don't worry about the heat, the hsf below will protect the cpu.

Motherboard:
GIGABYTE GA-970A-D3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asâ¦
$74.99 after $10.00 rebate card

Ram:
2X CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2B1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asâ¦
2X $37.99

PSU:
Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze W0382RU ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asâ¦
$69.99 with Rebate
comment: 750W pure should be enough for any single graphic card (even with dual gpu). I don't believe in crossfire and SLi effectiveness, i still believe 1 expensive card is better than 2 less expensive card in performance and compatibility issues.

Heat sink:
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible with Intel 1366/1155/775 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asâ¦
$19.99 after $10.00 rebate
Comment: cheap, good quaity and most popular. What more can you ask? If the free ram is too big for this hsf, put the smaller ram near cpu, this should do the trick.

SSD:
2X OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asâ¦
2X $99.99 =$200
comment: why 2? its to use raid 0, raid 0 will make those to as 256Gb with double the speed. If you do not know about how to set raid 0, then just use one of the ocz vertex 4 with 256Gb which cost $189. One SSD is fast, but with raid 0, it will double fast. You did said you want the best right?
Only install window and games in this SSD, data and else put in normal hdd]

HDD:
Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asâ¦
$119.99

Casing:
COOLER MASTER Elite 431 Plus RC-431P-KWN2 Black Steel Body (0.5mm SECC), ABS plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asâ¦
$34.99 after $20.00 rebate
comment: you can call me cheap, but i would rather spend the money for hardware than looks.

Optic:
LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asâ¦
$15.99
comment: forget the blue ray. It isn't practical and expensive.

Total without gpu: $791 (i am lazy with calculator)

GPU:
MSI N680GTX Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asâ¦
$429.99 after $40.00 rebate

Total gaming pc : $1220.99

This is without window 8, monitor, keyboard and speaker.

Oh forgot extra fan to cool your case:
2 piece of KINGWIN CF-012LB 120mm Case Fan
too much link, so i have to edit newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82â¦
$4.79 ea.
comment: one at the back of the case, out flow. One at the top of the case, in flow.

8 core cpu 4GHz, GTX 680 2Gb DDR5 overclocked, 4x4Gb ram DDR3-1600 CL9, 2x SSD vertex 4 raid 0, 3Gb hdd for storage. If anyone saying this $1230 pc is crap, i would like to meet the guy.




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